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Mira's avatar

Do you think the strange part of this “revolution” is how unevenly it shows up? Protein folding feels like a quiet lab story, while extinction-risk pricing feels like someone trying to build an insurance market for a fire nobody can agree is burning yet.

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The GDP study folks may be great AI researchers and computer scientists, but they're not economists, and it shows.

GDP is very simple in concept: the total dollar value of everything we produce. It is somewhat harder to calculate, but we've gotten pretty good at it, oddly enough from the demand side not the supply side. The usual formula is:

GDP = consumption + investment + govt spending + exports- imports

To claim AI upends that calculation, what value does it add that is not captured in one of those components?

"That’s what it feels like working on AI and staring at most economic data right now... the intuitions of everyone working within AI - including me - is it’s impossible to reconcile the capabilities of the technology and how it is being used with the economy staying normal."

This is a also misunderstanding of GDP; it is a trailing indicator. To use your Jaws metaphor, GDP's isn't going to warn you about the shark but rather tell you that you just got your leg bitten off. So it's not surprising that those of you working in AI can't reconcile your intuition about the future with current GDP -- that's not its job.

One of the reasons GDP is so valuable is that it tells us whether your "wow, AI is going to totally reformulate the economy" vibe is actually happening or is just a future possibility. The other measures would be U6 unemployment and TFP. If GDP and TFP move in parallel while unemployment starts to edge up, that would be a sign that the AI boom is leaving geek fantasy land and affecting the real economy.

Until then, it's just vibes. And GDP doesn't (and shouldn't) measure vibes. For now, AIs only impact on GDP is lots of data center construction, captured in (I) above.

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